Samsational Seeds
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Hello, friends. I am the breeder of these donations to the club.
I'm Sam, and I've been growing for 4 years.
Currently in year 5. I've attempted to breed since my 2nd year. It isn't easy; we are few. A few people are willing to grow their own plants. There is a deep connection and appreciation when you can grow a plant. Even if you suck and still need to learn, gardening teaches patience and attentiveness.
These seeds were bred in the winter of 2024- spring of 2025.
These are my auto hybrids using a previously established F1. auto
All of these submitted strains share this father.
This strain is one I bred called Buss Down Strawberry Banana Auto. ( buss down patek xx strawberry banana xx) (both autos)
- she is a sativa dominant strain, fruity terps, some phenotypes are like strawberry soda.
- she is a medium to xxL girly when giving the right conditions. Ive grown her on accident in a 7 gallon pop an got a 6 foot beast.
- seed to harvest is between 75- 90 days.
Yes some can finish faster depending on the size of the container.
This is one that Permanent Farms has grown recently in its auto-breeder showcase.
The receiving mothers were all female autos from reputable breeders.
I am someone who appreciates science and all the work put in prior. I don't want to pretend I've done this out of nowhere.
I bred strains that grow well naturally. I love autos for their flavor, adaptability, from seed to harvest time, and their ability to grow well discreetly or in an urban environment.
Learning to grow autos has been an experience, and I've been able to make the leap to growing 14-foot-tall plants in my backyard. Rome wasn't built in a day. It started with a pebble.
I do appreciate all who participate to grow my strain, tests/tastes, and give feedback. I know various skill levels will try, and I will not take it to heart if some fail.
Haha mainly cause what Troy grew was a monster and hes set the standard of what my breeding can do !
I am willing to give tips and information as much as you are willing to use.
My first tip is on how to germinate.
I prefer two methods. The seed in a paper towel and like a plastic bag. Or my favorite, a seed and a shot glass with water and a drop of hydrogen peroxide.
Both are very visible and easy to work with.
I personally prefer the shot glass method because I can wait for the seed to just break through a little bit and then put the seed tail down into the soil.
I've had mixed results with the plant just breaking free of the shell. Sometimes I kill that seeding, because I drown it or I don't have enough moisture around it, but I've learned to use a little cupcake. See-through domes.
My Instagram is.
Samsationalseeds
I'm Sam, and I've been growing for 4 years.
Currently in year 5. I've attempted to breed since my 2nd year. It isn't easy; we are few. A few people are willing to grow their own plants. There is a deep connection and appreciation when you can grow a plant. Even if you suck and still need to learn, gardening teaches patience and attentiveness.
These seeds were bred in the winter of 2024- spring of 2025.
These are my auto hybrids using a previously established F1. auto
All of these submitted strains share this father.
This strain is one I bred called Buss Down Strawberry Banana Auto. ( buss down patek xx strawberry banana xx) (both autos)
- she is a sativa dominant strain, fruity terps, some phenotypes are like strawberry soda.
- she is a medium to xxL girly when giving the right conditions. Ive grown her on accident in a 7 gallon pop an got a 6 foot beast.
- seed to harvest is between 75- 90 days.
Yes some can finish faster depending on the size of the container.
This is one that Permanent Farms has grown recently in its auto-breeder showcase.
The receiving mothers were all female autos from reputable breeders.
I am someone who appreciates science and all the work put in prior. I don't want to pretend I've done this out of nowhere.
I bred strains that grow well naturally. I love autos for their flavor, adaptability, from seed to harvest time, and their ability to grow well discreetly or in an urban environment.
Learning to grow autos has been an experience, and I've been able to make the leap to growing 14-foot-tall plants in my backyard. Rome wasn't built in a day. It started with a pebble.
I do appreciate all who participate to grow my strain, tests/tastes, and give feedback. I know various skill levels will try, and I will not take it to heart if some fail.
Haha mainly cause what Troy grew was a monster and hes set the standard of what my breeding can do !
I am willing to give tips and information as much as you are willing to use.
My first tip is on how to germinate.
I prefer two methods. The seed in a paper towel and like a plastic bag. Or my favorite, a seed and a shot glass with water and a drop of hydrogen peroxide.
Both are very visible and easy to work with.
I personally prefer the shot glass method because I can wait for the seed to just break through a little bit and then put the seed tail down into the soil.
I've had mixed results with the plant just breaking free of the shell. Sometimes I kill that seeding, because I drown it or I don't have enough moisture around it, but I've learned to use a little cupcake. See-through domes.
My Instagram is.
Samsationalseeds
Thank you again Sam for your very generous donation to our testing program! 
Don't sleep on the genetics guys!!!
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That only grew and their lineage links. Composition
All of these strains by default are
25% strawberry banana by FastBuds
2fast4buds.com
25% bus down patek by gemseekergenetics. (both autos)
The moms listed, are the ones that made the seeds and are 50% genetic donors. All autos.
Most names are still a work in progress. Some are just labeled.
Sidebar, I do not inherently believe there's a difference between indica and sativa. I think it comes more down to the CBD and other terps and cannabinoids.
Everything grown and made is pretty much a hybrid of previously established strains. So it being more leaning, just to me, is leaf shape, which people have correlated leaf shape to the environment around.
Sativas tend to like more tropical places and indicas like cold environments.
To me, if it hits, it hits; if it tastes good, it tastes good. You rarely get both when buying. Most should be sativa-leaning, but most of the parents were hybrids, so there will be traits of both.
Something to consider is that I only grew all of these in one-gallon pots. I haven't given them a larger medium.
1. Mother- Orange apricot glue by sweetseeds
sweetseeds.com
A reason that I bred using this strain is that she came out sticky, even though I struggled in growing her the first time and grew such a small plant, but she has so much potential. And she earned her glue name.
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx ( orange apricot glue) name for true catalog
B.D. BOSA Glue ( unofficial name)
- bus down banana, orange, strawberry, and apricot. A list of the fruits
- I've made a Bosa hybrid without the buss down. And she was also sticky and fruity. More orange.
- should be a hybrid with leaves of both types.
2. Mother- strawberry gorilla by FastBuds
2fast4buds.com
This sativa monster has always been sticky and full of fruity turps, and I wanted to keep that in a strain.
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Strawberry gorilla) name for true catalog.
B.D.B. strawberry² gorilla. ( unofficial name)
- sativa monster, my dude grew her and got 90 grams from a 2-gallon pot with grow dots.
- some strawberry notes
3. Mother- Tropicana poisoned by sweet seeds
sweetseeds.com
She was a pretty purple auto that I grew easily, but I need to learn how to get the most out of a flavorful auto.
This is one of those that I feel I can not get the most out of, but when I can't, I'm sure someone else can!
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Tropicana poison) name for true catalog
She was fruity and appealing. I've always wanted to make a purple strain. That is a monster, and call it a Stranger Things season 5, joke on the fact that it took forever for it to come out.
B.D.S.B. Tropicana poison unofficial name
Some gas notes and fruit.
Hybrid leaning
4. Mother- Mystery mom.
Can't be disclosed.
This is one of the outliers. I have hopes for a second gen; the mom produced the most nug-looking branches. Super round, almost like the rose shape we typically see.
The father's still the same
Aroma fruit salad
Sativa leaning.
official name
Sam's secret stash #1
5. Mother - Super lemon haze by greenhouse seed company
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Super lemon haze)
I chose this strain because a friend requested it and he wanted an old school strain. I wasn't impressed initially, but the super lemon haze punched out rosany oil that was super lemon scented. I felt that the name fit and I enjoyed growing her.
The weird thing about the seeds that I got from one of the two plants.
One plant made normal-looking seeds. The other made rice-shaped seeds. They weren't the typical teardrop. It was more oval and longer. I have put them in Germinate and they have popped. And I'm interested to see what they will come up with. As if they have any defects.
B.D.S.B. SHL unofficial name
- sativa leaning
- a different combination of fruity terps than the rest
6. Mother - gorilla cookies by fast buds
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( Gorilla cookies)
This was one of the first autos that my dad and I grew well, so I had to try and breed offspring with her. Just because we had an affinity towards it.
B.D.S.B. gorilla cookies unofficial name
I haven't grown this one, I just put ten seeds to pop, and I got all ten to germinate.
This I will be growing in red Solo cups because I'm running out of space. This is one of the few that you would actually be able to see me grow before you can.
Should be hybrid leaning with possible purple.
7. Mother - gummibear by Atlas seeds
atlasseed.com
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( gummibear)
I grew this by giving Atlas seeds a chance. I'm on the fence for their autos. They do breed from one auto, like I aim to breed.
Some have given me and my dad. Hermaphroditic tendencies. And I do say it with a grain of salt because that could be just a human error not the plant. I have had great results with some of their autos, like the fruit by the foot and turtle taffy.
I try to give brands a fair shot. And if my fare shot is breeding with them to make a slightly better strain, that's okay.
I do say with a grain of salt, because all breeders can have ottos with hermaphroditic tendencies that just fall on the stability of the genetics and the stress of the plant.
B.D.S.B gummibear
- I haven't grown this one. I have no clue. I don't even remember if the mom was sativa or indica. Leaning, but I'd say it's safe to say this is sativa or a hybrid.
8. Mother - Gorilla z by fastbuds
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( Gorilla z )
B.D.S.B. gorilla z
When I bred this. One of the two plants grew to 5 and a half feet.
This one came out sticky, fruity, and made a ton of seeds, thankfully.
-sativa with high potential.
9. Mother- Northern lights by Seedsman
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( northern lights )
So I've had mixed results with Seedsman, autos. Mainly because I've only tried their free ones when they include them in orders. I have seen the potential in northern lights and their critical plus two point oh, however.
They're so finicky, they have to have the perfect groove for it to come out enjoyable.
I believe this is because the seedsman does it from the beginning to the end. They go out of their way to make a unique strain. Get their ruteralis, combine it, and then keep improving on it. To me, it doesn't seem like they take a shortcut. And make an established quality, stable strain breed with one that needs to be picked up.
This is also one of those because I got it for free. And if I can improve on it, I will.
This was also a five-foot beast.
B.D.S.B NTL
Sativa
All of these strains by default are
25% strawberry banana by FastBuds
Buy Strawberry Banana Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
Our most potent autoflower of 2022! Strawberry banana auto seeds give supersized buds that give a different taste with each puff.
2fast4buds.com
25% bus down patek by gemseekergenetics. (both autos)
Sticker Combo Autoz
Collectible Sticker with 6 Exotic Birdseeds AutoFem 70+/- days
gemseekergenetics.myshopify.com
The moms listed, are the ones that made the seeds and are 50% genetic donors. All autos.
Most names are still a work in progress. Some are just labeled.
Sidebar, I do not inherently believe there's a difference between indica and sativa. I think it comes more down to the CBD and other terps and cannabinoids.
Everything grown and made is pretty much a hybrid of previously established strains. So it being more leaning, just to me, is leaf shape, which people have correlated leaf shape to the environment around.
Sativas tend to like more tropical places and indicas like cold environments.
To me, if it hits, it hits; if it tastes good, it tastes good. You rarely get both when buying. Most should be sativa-leaning, but most of the parents were hybrids, so there will be traits of both.
Something to consider is that I only grew all of these in one-gallon pots. I haven't given them a larger medium.
1. Mother- Orange apricot glue by sweetseeds
Orange Apricot Glue XL Auto® - Sweet Seeds®
Orange Apricot Glue XL Auto® combines power, resin, and aroma. An XL autoflower with a fruity, citrus flavor and a creative effect.
A reason that I bred using this strain is that she came out sticky, even though I struggled in growing her the first time and grew such a small plant, but she has so much potential. And she earned her glue name.
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx ( orange apricot glue) name for true catalog
B.D. BOSA Glue ( unofficial name)
- bus down banana, orange, strawberry, and apricot. A list of the fruits
- I've made a Bosa hybrid without the buss down. And she was also sticky and fruity. More orange.
- should be a hybrid with leaves of both types.
2. Mother- strawberry gorilla by FastBuds
Buy Strawberry Gorilla Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
Bud descriptionStrawberry Gorilla Auto nugs are extremely frosty, a true work of art. This variety produces lime-green buds with oversized spade
2fast4buds.com
This sativa monster has always been sticky and full of fruity turps, and I wanted to keep that in a strain.
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Strawberry gorilla) name for true catalog.
B.D.B. strawberry² gorilla. ( unofficial name)
- sativa monster, my dude grew her and got 90 grams from a 2-gallon pot with grow dots.
- some strawberry notes
3. Mother- Tropicana poisoned by sweet seeds
Tropicanna Poison XL Auto®
Tropicanna Cookies x Red Poison Auto® The autoflowering, red-flowered, feminized version of our Tropicanna Poison F1 Fast Version® (SWS85). Contains genetic material from one of the most famous “Super Strong” Cookies strains in the US, no less than Tropicanna Cookies (Girl Scout Cookies x Tangie).
She was a pretty purple auto that I grew easily, but I need to learn how to get the most out of a flavorful auto.
This is one of those that I feel I can not get the most out of, but when I can't, I'm sure someone else can!
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Tropicana poison) name for true catalog
She was fruity and appealing. I've always wanted to make a purple strain. That is a monster, and call it a Stranger Things season 5, joke on the fact that it took forever for it to come out.
B.D.S.B. Tropicana poison unofficial name
Some gas notes and fruit.
Hybrid leaning
4. Mother- Mystery mom.
Can't be disclosed.
This is one of the outliers. I have hopes for a second gen; the mom produced the most nug-looking branches. Super round, almost like the rose shape we typically see.
The father's still the same
Aroma fruit salad
Sativa leaning.
official name
Sam's secret stash #1
5. Mother - Super lemon haze by greenhouse seed company
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Super lemon haze)
I chose this strain because a friend requested it and he wanted an old school strain. I wasn't impressed initially, but the super lemon haze punched out rosany oil that was super lemon scented. I felt that the name fit and I enjoyed growing her.
The weird thing about the seeds that I got from one of the two plants.
One plant made normal-looking seeds. The other made rice-shaped seeds. They weren't the typical teardrop. It was more oval and longer. I have put them in Germinate and they have popped. And I'm interested to see what they will come up with. As if they have any defects.
B.D.S.B. SHL unofficial name
- sativa leaning
- a different combination of fruity terps than the rest
6. Mother - gorilla cookies by fast buds
Buy Gorilla Cookies Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
The strongest, stickiest autoflower hybrid strain. Gorilla Cookies auto seeds deliver reliable results in both outdoor and indoor, with chunky dense buds.
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( Gorilla cookies)
This was one of the first autos that my dad and I grew well, so I had to try and breed offspring with her. Just because we had an affinity towards it.
B.D.S.B. gorilla cookies unofficial name
I haven't grown this one, I just put ten seeds to pop, and I got all ten to germinate.
This I will be growing in red Solo cups because I'm running out of space. This is one of the few that you would actually be able to see me grow before you can.
Should be hybrid leaning with possible purple.
7. Mother - gummibear by Atlas seeds
Gummibears Auto - Seed Pack • Atlas Seed
Gummibears offers our best blend of mold resistance, yield, and potency, for those who want to keep botrytis at bay but still throw down a hefty crop. The lineage of this hybrid combines our mold resistant master donor Atlas Star with OG influence from our Mythic OG line. Compact and consistent...
atlasseed.com
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( gummibear)
I grew this by giving Atlas seeds a chance. I'm on the fence for their autos. They do breed from one auto, like I aim to breed.
Some have given me and my dad. Hermaphroditic tendencies. And I do say it with a grain of salt because that could be just a human error not the plant. I have had great results with some of their autos, like the fruit by the foot and turtle taffy.
I try to give brands a fair shot. And if my fare shot is breeding with them to make a slightly better strain, that's okay.
I do say with a grain of salt, because all breeders can have ottos with hermaphroditic tendencies that just fall on the stability of the genetics and the stress of the plant.
B.D.S.B gummibear
- I haven't grown this one. I have no clue. I don't even remember if the mom was sativa or indica. Leaning, but I'd say it's safe to say this is sativa or a hybrid.
8. Mother - Gorilla z by fastbuds
Buy Gorilla Z Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
Bud descriptionAbsolutely stunning buds. Gorilla Z Auto buds produce beautiful dark green purplish hues with long and thin orange hairs and so m
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( Gorilla z )
B.D.S.B. gorilla z
When I bred this. One of the two plants grew to 5 and a half feet.
This one came out sticky, fruity, and made a ton of seeds, thankfully.
-sativa with high potential.
9. Mother- Northern lights by Seedsman
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( northern lights )
So I've had mixed results with Seedsman, autos. Mainly because I've only tried their free ones when they include them in orders. I have seen the potential in northern lights and their critical plus two point oh, however.
They're so finicky, they have to have the perfect groove for it to come out enjoyable.
I believe this is because the seedsman does it from the beginning to the end. They go out of their way to make a unique strain. Get their ruteralis, combine it, and then keep improving on it. To me, it doesn't seem like they take a shortcut. And make an established quality, stable strain breed with one that needs to be picked up.
This is also one of those because I got it for free. And if I can improve on it, I will.
This was also a five-foot beast.
B.D.S.B NTL
Sativa
samsationalseeds
Member
10. Mother- gelato.g by Seedsman
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(gelato.g)
Because of how I felt previously with Seedsman autos, I was genuinely shocked by this one. She performed really well also grew to 5 feet. But it was more resinous and potent than the northern lights.
This breeding experiment tested my ability to take care of many plants, and put seedsmen in a better light, and made me appreciate their work.
B.D.S.B GelatO.G
Hybrid /sativa leaning
11. Strawberry banana by Fast Buds, one of the original parents to the F1 strain.
This is the only one with a different composition
%75 strawberry banana
%25 bus down patek
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( Strawberry banana)
Sativa leaning, fruity with some grass.
In all honesty? I wasn't planning on using one of my F1s to be the father for this second generation of autos. I was creating.
The plants that were selected to be the dads wound up dying sts. Spray is very strong and can kill plants. That's why they tell beginners who are learning. How to grow to avoid breeding cause it is a pain.
This is me admitting that I messed up and I had backups of my strain, and I wound up being the father that survived.
Super sativa
Strawberry² banana
Or strawberry banana milkshake lol
12. Mother - purple punch by fast buds
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( purple punch)
When breeding seeds that come from a purple plant, it's cool. Sometimes you see purple layers on that seed. Like it's somehow stained purple, and it's so cool.
This also shows my support of fast buds a lot of the strains used here were. There is because I have an easy time growing them. They're stable enough, and there are people who say otherwise, but I think that's just a skill issue with attentiveness.
People want growing to be easy and carefree and complain that it's the breeders, but it's really just unrealistic expectations. You get what you put in.
Buss down purple punch
Sativa or hybrid leaning with the potential for purple
13. Skywalker o g runtz by sweetseeds
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( skywalker o g runtz)
Sweet seeds impressed me because I had never tried them before. But I tried four auto strains back to back of theirs, and they were all impressive. The purple one was purple, and the glue was sticky. The og Skywalker run was sticky, fruity like cherry or strawberry. But this is going on
Bust down straw walker og runtz
Hybrid leaning terpy.
Medium size
14. Cream cookies with fast buds
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( Cream cookies)
I grew this strain because they discontinued Girl Scout Cookies in America.And this was their improved version of it.It did not stack up exactly the same, but I can see why it was improved.It had a better yield and better structure.And better symmetry.
This was also a five foot beast.
Strawberry banana cream
Ceiling for high potential
Potential purple
Complex creamy and fruity notes
15. Pilot light autobi atlas seeds.
atlasseed.com
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( pilot light)
This is one of atlas seeds.Latest auto releases with a high ceiling.And I chose to breed using it.
Nothing other than it being a tall beast sticks out.
Strawberry banana light
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(gelato.g)
Because of how I felt previously with Seedsman autos, I was genuinely shocked by this one. She performed really well also grew to 5 feet. But it was more resinous and potent than the northern lights.
This breeding experiment tested my ability to take care of many plants, and put seedsmen in a better light, and made me appreciate their work.
B.D.S.B GelatO.G
Hybrid /sativa leaning
11. Strawberry banana by Fast Buds, one of the original parents to the F1 strain.
This is the only one with a different composition
%75 strawberry banana
%25 bus down patek
Buy Strawberry Banana Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
Our most potent autoflower of 2022! Strawberry banana auto seeds give supersized buds that give a different taste with each puff.
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( Strawberry banana)
Sativa leaning, fruity with some grass.
In all honesty? I wasn't planning on using one of my F1s to be the father for this second generation of autos. I was creating.
The plants that were selected to be the dads wound up dying sts. Spray is very strong and can kill plants. That's why they tell beginners who are learning. How to grow to avoid breeding cause it is a pain.
This is me admitting that I messed up and I had backups of my strain, and I wound up being the father that survived.
Super sativa
Strawberry² banana
Or strawberry banana milkshake lol
12. Mother - purple punch by fast buds
Buy Purple Punch Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
A giant, indica dominant hybrid straight from Cali. Purple punch auto seeds produce a monsterous bud, with an excellent terpene profile.
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( purple punch)
When breeding seeds that come from a purple plant, it's cool. Sometimes you see purple layers on that seed. Like it's somehow stained purple, and it's so cool.
This also shows my support of fast buds a lot of the strains used here were. There is because I have an easy time growing them. They're stable enough, and there are people who say otherwise, but I think that's just a skill issue with attentiveness.
People want growing to be easy and carefree and complain that it's the breeders, but it's really just unrealistic expectations. You get what you put in.
Buss down purple punch
Sativa or hybrid leaning with the potential for purple
13. Skywalker o g runtz by sweetseeds
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( skywalker o g runtz)
Sweet seeds impressed me because I had never tried them before. But I tried four auto strains back to back of theirs, and they were all impressive. The purple one was purple, and the glue was sticky. The og Skywalker run was sticky, fruity like cherry or strawberry. But this is going on
Bust down straw walker og runtz
Hybrid leaning terpy.
Medium size
14. Cream cookies with fast buds
Buy Cream Cookies Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
An iconic strain that is easy to manage throughout the grow process. Cream Cookies auto seeds produce an indica dominant bud with a smooth, cookie flavour.
2fast4buds.com
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( Cream cookies)
I grew this strain because they discontinued Girl Scout Cookies in America.And this was their improved version of it.It did not stack up exactly the same, but I can see why it was improved.It had a better yield and better structure.And better symmetry.
This was also a five foot beast.
Strawberry banana cream
Ceiling for high potential
Potential purple
Complex creamy and fruity notes
15. Pilot light autobi atlas seeds.
Pilot Light Auto - Seed Pack • Atlas Seed
We backcrossed fatso into an auto and made our best selection from a field trial. A taller auto with above average internodal spacing, producing chunky buds with a fuel infused stickiness. Fatso takes a bit longer to mature but achieves industry leading cannabinoid production and a rewards...
atlasseed.com
(Strawberry banana xx buss down patek) xx
( pilot light)
This is one of atlas seeds.Latest auto releases with a high ceiling.And I chose to breed using it.
Nothing other than it being a tall beast sticks out.
Strawberry banana light
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samsationalseeds
Member
I apologize for the info dump. But I want everything to be organized when you guys get the strains. I cannot predict which ones you will get. It may just be random or by request. Ask Troy.
But I posted the links cause I want you guys to read about which ones you're gonna grow.
At least know what their majority parent is.
Have a reference of its dad being grown well.
As you can tell, I am very meticulous and take notes and clearly use science.
Please, when working with the strains do not get frustrated. Reach out. The test is for growers of all skilled types.
We may be entering a prohibition on this. So picking up the skill for at-home, leisure in savings might be worth it.
I genuinely hope you guys have an amazing grow.This year. I can't wait for the updates and the posts.
But I posted the links cause I want you guys to read about which ones you're gonna grow.
At least know what their majority parent is.
Have a reference of its dad being grown well.
As you can tell, I am very meticulous and take notes and clearly use science.
Please, when working with the strains do not get frustrated. Reach out. The test is for growers of all skilled types.
We may be entering a prohibition on this. So picking up the skill for at-home, leisure in savings might be worth it.
I genuinely hope you guys have an amazing grow.This year. I can't wait for the updates and the posts.
samsationalseeds
Member
The father of all of these plants is on the left side.
Love this! Thank you for sharing all this information with us!!That only grew and their lineage links. Composition
All of these strains by default are
25% strawberry banana by FastBuds
Buy Strawberry Banana Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
Our most potent autoflower of 2022! Strawberry banana auto seeds give supersized buds that give a different taste with each puff.
25% bus down patek by gemseekergenetics. (both autos)
Sticker Combo Autoz
Collectible Sticker with 6 Exotic Birdseeds AutoFem 70+/- daysgemseekergenetics.myshopify.com
The moms listed, are the ones that made the seeds and are 50% genetic donors. All autos.
Most names are still a work in progress. Some are just labeled.
Sidebar, I do not inherently believe there's a difference between indica and sativa. I think it comes more down to the CBD and other terps and cannabinoids.
Everything grown and made is pretty much a hybrid of previously established strains. So it being more leaning, just to me, is leaf shape, which people have correlated leaf shape to the environment around.
Sativas tend to like more tropical places and indicas like cold environments.
To me, if it hits, it hits; if it tastes good, it tastes good. You rarely get both when buying. Most should be sativa-leaning, but most of the parents were hybrids, so there will be traits of both.
Something to consider is that I only grew all of these in one-gallon pots. I haven't given them a larger medium.
1. Mother- Orange apricot glue by sweetseeds
Orange Apricot Glue XL Auto® - Sweet Seeds®
Orange Apricot Glue XL Auto® combines power, resin, and aroma. An XL autoflower with a fruity, citrus flavor and a creative effect.
A reason that I bred using this strain is that she came out sticky, even though I struggled in growing her the first time and grew such a small plant, but she has so much potential. And she earned her glue name.
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx ( orange apricot glue) name for true catalog
B.D. BOSA Glue ( unofficial name)
- bus down banana, orange, strawberry, and apricot. A list of the fruits
- I've made a Bosa hybrid without the buss down. And she was also sticky and fruity. More orange.
- should be a hybrid with leaves of both types.
2. Mother- strawberry gorilla by FastBuds
Buy Strawberry Gorilla Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
Bud descriptionStrawberry Gorilla Auto nugs are extremely frosty, a true work of art. This variety produces lime-green buds with oversized spade
This sativa monster has always been sticky and full of fruity turps, and I wanted to keep that in a strain.
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Strawberry gorilla) name for true catalog.
B.D.B. strawberry² gorilla. ( unofficial name)
- sativa monster, my dude grew her and got 90 grams from a 2-gallon pot with grow dots.
- some strawberry notes
3. Mother- Tropicana poisoned by sweet seeds
Tropicanna Poison XL Auto®
Tropicanna Cookies x Red Poison Auto® The autoflowering, red-flowered, feminized version of our Tropicanna Poison F1 Fast Version® (SWS85). Contains genetic material from one of the most famous “Super Strong” Cookies strains in the US, no less than Tropicanna Cookies (Girl Scout Cookies x Tangie).
She was a pretty purple auto that I grew easily, but I need to learn how to get the most out of a flavorful auto.
This is one of those that I feel I can not get the most out of, but when I can't, I'm sure someone else can!
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Tropicana poison) name for true catalog
She was fruity and appealing. I've always wanted to make a purple strain. That is a monster, and call it a Stranger Things season 5, joke on the fact that it took forever for it to come out.
B.D.S.B. Tropicana poison unofficial name
Some gas notes and fruit.
Hybrid leaning
4. Mother- Mystery mom.
Can't be disclosed.
This is one of the outliers. I have hopes for a second gen; the mom produced the most nug-looking branches. Super round, almost like the rose shape we typically see.
The father's still the same
Aroma fruit salad
Sativa leaning.
official name
Sam's secret stash #1
5. Mother - Super lemon haze by greenhouse seed company
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
(Super lemon haze)
I chose this strain because a friend requested it and he wanted an old school strain. I wasn't impressed initially, but the super lemon haze punched out rosany oil that was super lemon scented. I felt that the name fit and I enjoyed growing her.
The weird thing about the seeds that I got from one of the two plants.
One plant made normal-looking seeds. The other made rice-shaped seeds. They weren't the typical teardrop. It was more oval and longer. I have put them in Germinate and they have popped. And I'm interested to see what they will come up with. As if they have any defects.
B.D.S.B. SHL unofficial name
- sativa leaning
- a different combination of fruity terps than the rest
6. Mother - gorilla cookies by fast buds
Buy Gorilla Cookies Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
The strongest, stickiest autoflower hybrid strain. Gorilla Cookies auto seeds deliver reliable results in both outdoor and indoor, with chunky dense buds.
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( Gorilla cookies)
This was one of the first autos that my dad and I grew well, so I had to try and breed offspring with her. Just because we had an affinity towards it.
B.D.S.B. gorilla cookies unofficial name
I haven't grown this one, I just put ten seeds to pop, and I got all ten to germinate.
This I will be growing in red Solo cups because I'm running out of space. This is one of the few that you would actually be able to see me grow before you can.
Should be hybrid leaning with possible purple.
7. Mother - gummibear by Atlas seeds
Gummibears Auto - Seed Pack • Atlas Seed
Gummibears offers our best blend of mold resistance, yield, and potency, for those who want to keep botrytis at bay but still throw down a hefty crop. The lineage of this hybrid combines our mold resistant master donor Atlas Star with OG influence from our Mythic OG line. Compact and consistent...
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( gummibear)
I grew this by giving Atlas seeds a chance. I'm on the fence for their autos. They do breed from one auto, like I aim to breed.
Some have given me and my dad. Hermaphroditic tendencies. And I do say it with a grain of salt because that could be just a human error not the plant. I have had great results with some of their autos, like the fruit by the foot and turtle taffy.
I try to give brands a fair shot. And if my fare shot is breeding with them to make a slightly better strain, that's okay.
I do say with a grain of salt, because all breeders can have ottos with hermaphroditic tendencies that just fall on the stability of the genetics and the stress of the plant.
B.D.S.B gummibear
- I haven't grown this one. I have no clue. I don't even remember if the mom was sativa or indica. Leaning, but I'd say it's safe to say this is sativa or a hybrid.
8. Mother - Gorilla z by fastbuds
Buy Gorilla Z Auto Cannabis Seeds | 42 Fast Buds United States
Bud descriptionAbsolutely stunning buds. Gorilla Z Auto buds produce beautiful dark green purplish hues with long and thin orange hairs and so m
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( Gorilla z )
B.D.S.B. gorilla z
When I bred this. One of the two plants grew to 5 and a half feet.
This one came out sticky, fruity, and made a ton of seeds, thankfully.
-sativa with high potential.
9. Mother- Northern lights by Seedsman
(Strawberry bananax xx buss down patek) xx
( northern lights )
So I've had mixed results with Seedsman, autos. Mainly because I've only tried their free ones when they include them in orders. I have seen the potential in northern lights and their critical plus two point oh, however.
They're so finicky, they have to have the perfect groove for it to come out enjoyable.
I believe this is because the seedsman does it from the beginning to the end. They go out of their way to make a unique strain. Get their ruteralis, combine it, and then keep improving on it. To me, it doesn't seem like they take a shortcut. And make an established quality, stable strain breed with one that needs to be picked up.
This is also one of those because I got it for free. And if I can improve on it, I will.
This was also a five-foot beast.
B.D.S.B NTL
Sativa
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One final note is that I went through all the added effort and made these feminized auto hybrids.
I went through the process of using silver solutions to make a female plant produce pollen sacks and to pass on only the X chromosome to its offspring. When pollinating another female plant.
That is how feminization works.
When looking at nature, a punit square is used to determine the genetic makeup of an offspring.
Males produce the Y chromosome, and it is a dominant trait.
XY
Females have two X chromosomes, which are recessive in relation to the Y chromosome.
XX
X. | Y
X| XX. XY
__
X|XX. XY
Fem. Male
Because both carry the X chromosome.
And one only carries y (male) . It balances out the punnet square to the extent that nature produces fifty-fifty odds, male to female.
That is what I did to create feminized auto hybrids. Plants can herm out if put under a lot of stress.
I have grown approximately fifty of my autos. From seed, and I have only seen one produce hermaphroditic traits, and it was only making two nanners and not even whole pollen sacks. So it's not that bad.
Looking at ninety-something percent fem rates.
Here is a study paid for by the U.S. government. Archives about using STS spray on CBD plants to increase the odds of having a feminine plant.
This isn't hoopla, this isn't magic? It is literally science that has been proven, and before the US government funded research to do it. People like us did all the hard work.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This is skill and knowledge. I picked up from watching YouTubers and influencers before me. A lot of it is practice. Do not try to skip to the end. Because you imagine throwing money at an issue is the solution.
I do not want you guys to be discouraged. You make a mistake, I've made mistakes. I've made mistakes in my recent growth.
I've met many people who throw down a thousand to two thousand dollars on a setup. Don't even harvest within the first year and sell everything. Because their too butt hurt about the waste.
My biggest tip is to evaluate your environment and aim to master it. Every environment is different. My tips might not suit you, but you're gonna have to see what you're working with. And maybe do some reading.
this should be the last post I make for a while until you guys start growing. Thank you for your time . I hope all you guys have green thumbs
I went through the process of using silver solutions to make a female plant produce pollen sacks and to pass on only the X chromosome to its offspring. When pollinating another female plant.
That is how feminization works.
When looking at nature, a punit square is used to determine the genetic makeup of an offspring.
Males produce the Y chromosome, and it is a dominant trait.
XY
Females have two X chromosomes, which are recessive in relation to the Y chromosome.
XX
X. | Y
X| XX. XY
__
X|XX. XY
Fem. Male
Because both carry the X chromosome.
And one only carries y (male) . It balances out the punnet square to the extent that nature produces fifty-fifty odds, male to female.
That is what I did to create feminized auto hybrids. Plants can herm out if put under a lot of stress.
I have grown approximately fifty of my autos. From seed, and I have only seen one produce hermaphroditic traits, and it was only making two nanners and not even whole pollen sacks. So it's not that bad.
Looking at ninety-something percent fem rates.
Here is a study paid for by the U.S. government. Archives about using STS spray on CBD plants to increase the odds of having a feminine plant.
This isn't hoopla, this isn't magic? It is literally science that has been proven, and before the US government funded research to do it. People like us did all the hard work.
Production of Feminized Seeds of High CBD Cannabis sativa L. by Manipulation of Sex Expression and Its Application to Breeding - PubMed
The use of the cannabis plant as a source of therapeutic compounds is gaining great importance since restrictions on its growth and use are gradually reduced throughout the world. Intensification of medical (drug type) cannabis production stimulated breeding activities aimed at developing new...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This is skill and knowledge. I picked up from watching YouTubers and influencers before me. A lot of it is practice. Do not try to skip to the end. Because you imagine throwing money at an issue is the solution.
I do not want you guys to be discouraged. You make a mistake, I've made mistakes. I've made mistakes in my recent growth.
I've met many people who throw down a thousand to two thousand dollars on a setup. Don't even harvest within the first year and sell everything. Because their too butt hurt about the waste.
My biggest tip is to evaluate your environment and aim to master it. Every environment is different. My tips might not suit you, but you're gonna have to see what you're working with. And maybe do some reading.
this should be the last post I make for a while until you guys start growing. Thank you for your time . I hope all you guys have green thumbs
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Happyclouds
Active member
Thanks so much for the info much appreciated
wunlove420
New member
Excited to grow the mystery pack for you
samsationalseeds
Member
The cool thing is that i'm running a couple of it right now.So you'll get a preview
wunlove420
New member
samsationalseeds
Member
I will be posting links to my instagram post.
I am super active there.I like this platform because I can be more educational and organized. Instagram is literally a d h d soup haha. But instagram is my shit lol
This first post is the most recent and up to date of some of the autos.I've bred i'm pleased so far. I have symmetry, I don't have stress in them.I've had more stress in the seeds.I've purchased than these. The other plants not shown are not bred by me. The ones pointed out were bred by me
What I will post next, will share links to a series of posts leading up to me making the batch of seeds.You guys will grow.
1.
Video of me, prepping and germinating, approximately sixty seeds.
2.
One of the two tents used to carry out this breeding experiment.
3.
The first picture shows my one tent using one gallon pots.The second picture shows the other tent using two gallon pots, and the third picture shows the plants that turned into the fourteen foot monsters.I had this summer.
4.
Video update me explaining that the silver solutions become inert after a certain amount of time, and I ran the risk of not being able to read anything, but one of my f one auto survived and made pollen.
5.
A closer look at a some auto that is producing pollen to make feminized seeds.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIxm2wkMx1k/?igsh=MXh6am1vYzRyNnJyNA==
6.
Fem auto's making the seeds
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJayP1dssMh/?igsh=NWc1anJ3bThtZzBv
7.
Tent number two, making seeds and entering bloom shortly after the first tent.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJx83XpMApg/?igsh=MTF5eWZ6ajh1ZHY4ag==
8.
Close up on tent number two when they're going into the further parts of bloom and seed production
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKGp2cHsGQD/?igsh=MXhvYzd5Znpidnh6Zg==
9.
Seeds falling off the plant
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKPWvTPxdYK/?igsh=YTR5cXlpcnBqZGMw
10.
Final post.
After seed harvest
https://www.instagram.com/p/DI6eG6lRGOb/?igsh=MXV0MzlrNTNwdTQz
Questions as to how I could grow fifty plus strains under two lights. They were in small containers, and I was not trying to extend their veg or seeping time at all.I just put them straight into the soil on a heating pad, and they grew until they hit the bottom of the bag, and that's why half of those were small.And i'm surprised even seven plants grew beyond four feet.
I use a time release nutrients.
Liquid salt nutrients is cool, but when you're taking care of that many, it becomes very hard and inconsistent, because different plants need different amounts.
Time release, you can feed according to the size of the plant.So I knew some of the smaller ones weren't gonna use that much bloom nutrients.
I am super active there.I like this platform because I can be more educational and organized. Instagram is literally a d h d soup haha. But instagram is my shit lol
This first post is the most recent and up to date of some of the autos.I've bred i'm pleased so far. I have symmetry, I don't have stress in them.I've had more stress in the seeds.I've purchased than these. The other plants not shown are not bred by me. The ones pointed out were bred by me
What I will post next, will share links to a series of posts leading up to me making the batch of seeds.You guys will grow.
1.
Video of me, prepping and germinating, approximately sixty seeds.
2.
One of the two tents used to carry out this breeding experiment.
3.
The first picture shows my one tent using one gallon pots.The second picture shows the other tent using two gallon pots, and the third picture shows the plants that turned into the fourteen foot monsters.I had this summer.
4.
Video update me explaining that the silver solutions become inert after a certain amount of time, and I ran the risk of not being able to read anything, but one of my f one auto survived and made pollen.
5.
A closer look at a some auto that is producing pollen to make feminized seeds.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIxm2wkMx1k/?igsh=MXh6am1vYzRyNnJyNA==
6.
Fem auto's making the seeds
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJayP1dssMh/?igsh=NWc1anJ3bThtZzBv
7.
Tent number two, making seeds and entering bloom shortly after the first tent.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJx83XpMApg/?igsh=MTF5eWZ6ajh1ZHY4ag==
8.
Close up on tent number two when they're going into the further parts of bloom and seed production
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKGp2cHsGQD/?igsh=MXhvYzd5Znpidnh6Zg==
9.
Seeds falling off the plant
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKPWvTPxdYK/?igsh=YTR5cXlpcnBqZGMw
10.
Final post.
After seed harvest
https://www.instagram.com/p/DI6eG6lRGOb/?igsh=MXV0MzlrNTNwdTQz
Questions as to how I could grow fifty plus strains under two lights. They were in small containers, and I was not trying to extend their veg or seeping time at all.I just put them straight into the soil on a heating pad, and they grew until they hit the bottom of the bag, and that's why half of those were small.And i'm surprised even seven plants grew beyond four feet.
I use a time release nutrients.
Liquid salt nutrients is cool, but when you're taking care of that many, it becomes very hard and inconsistent, because different plants need different amounts.
Time release, you can feed according to the size of the plant.So I knew some of the smaller ones weren't gonna use that much bloom nutrients.
is the orange apricot glue an indica it sounds like a really tasty strain
samsationalseeds
Member
Yes ! But remember, this is only fifty percent. These traits should be the more dominant presenting strain. But influenced by the sativa father.
The original orange apricot glue by sweet seeds caught me by a surprise.She did grow a little small. Like a foot buuuut. She was a sticky Lil terpy, sticky bush.
I'm glad my breeding attempt was successful, and I was able to use it as one of the parents.
The apricot phenotype was the more present one.
I appreciate your interest.It means a lot.
Good lucky growers.
Which ones are Indica leaningYes ! But remember, this is only fifty percent. These traits should be the more dominant presenting strain. But influenced by the sativa father.
The original orange apricot glue by sweet seeds caught me by a surprise.She did grow a little small. Like a foot buuuut. She was a sticky Lil terpy, sticky bush.
I'm glad my breeding attempt was successful, and I was able to use it as one of the parents.
The apricot phenotype was the more present one.
I appreciate your interest.It means a lot.
Good lucky growers.
samsationalseeds
Member
No clue, that's what you guys are here to find out. My assumption is most will be sativa Leaning. (Based off the dad)
Check and read the links to all 15. Maybe one of the mom leans indica
